FM tuner issues

Discussions about radios and tuners. Do you have an old radio that is giving you fits? This is the place to talk about them, along with stand-alone radio tuners, tube and solid state, stereo and mono.
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FM tuner issues

Post: # 15178Post Motorola minion »

Attached is the standard issue tuner that nearly every manufacturer used some variation of.

Building a quality FM tuner was an expensive undertaking like a VHF tuner in a TV set, and by 1959-60 outsourcing to the Germans pull-string tuned unit was an efficient way to get the radio function, though stereo records were the real reason folks spent money on consoles by that time.

As I may have mentioned elsewhere, European consoles may be stylish and sound great but they are NOT made of durable materials, especially the speakers, cabinets and volume pots. After a recap and struggling with funky function switch contacts for an EMUD console to work, the paper caps were the main reason it did not work. I never saw caps test that bad, not even bumblebees. The legs fell out of the cabinet bottom, made from very crumbly particle board, requiring plywood to hold legs and grafted onto the unstable cabinet bottom. Only the BSR Monarch player was

This tuner from a Motorola SK-32 received 1 station that closes the eye tube, a 50 kW modern country station 14 miles away. There is barely any response on other FM locals, due in part to badly drifted gray dogbone caps ranging from 10 pF to 200 pF. Voltages all test spot-on, as well as coils, AFC diode and the resistors. Alignment of IF amplifier transformers and tuner trimmer caps improved things slightly with some other local FM stations making a faint appearance. Still pretty bad for a Motorola and not acceptable for a paying customer. :x

I called a bench tech friend upstate, asking how a Motorola using a 6BQ7 could receive FM even more poorly than a tubed Japanese set, that seems to favor all the wrong frequencies. I never had this issue with a Zenith or Motorola before!

He had an non-functioning RCA version with 12DT8 tube like my 61-62 model RCA's that were just off-frequency. He shot-gunned all the caps and resistors after confirming voltages were correct and coils were OK. Now it works like new after an alignment

After that news, I ordered 12 mica caps for a tiny board pictured below.
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Re: FM tuner issues

Post: # 15181Post electra225 »

I had a Philips radio that I used on the bench. It was nice when I got it. It sat on the bench in my unheated, non-airconditioned upstairs shop. One day, a speaker started rattling like the cone was broken or a voice coil was rubbing. I picked the radio up to move it where I could work on it. The thing crumbled into a heap on the bench. The "mystery wood" glued sawdust cabinet, like you describe, apparently absorbed enough humidity that it simply came apart. The reason the speaker was rattling was that it wasn't connected to the cabinet anymore. I pulled the tubes and put the rest in the trash. Too bad, it worked and sounded nice. I don't want any more German radios.

Does Magnavox use that tuner?
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