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Post: # 4050Post Motorola minion »

I'm posting this for one reason only, to dispel the myth that only certain tube testers are to be trusted.

What goes wrong in tubes falls into a few categories, all of which a very modest emission tester can help you sort your spares so no bad ones linger. I mean, I do use weak 6BQ5s to sniff out issues in malfunctioning amps. Even the tube testers at stores like radio shack would not lie too much, very odd since the store often made money selling replacements. :?

My first tester was a Weston 798, a more complex mutual conductance tester that had bias setting/plate voltage/etc to make sure you accounted for the type of tube. i.e. rectifier, battery type, diode or triode-pentode. But that was old-school since I needed to add a 9-pin socket adapter to test 6CG7/12AU7 like a 6SN7 and 6V6/6K6/6L6 to 6BQ5 adapter among others. Basically the unit stopped at what ever tube was available in 1948.

Mercury, B-K, Sencore, EICO, Heathkit's simple emission testers are absolutely useful to triage tubes quickly. An open heater, inter-element leakage and gas is quickly detected using neon lamps and a modest meter for emission or grid-emission, a symptom of gas or loss of vacuum not severe enough to burn out a filament.

The Hickock and some expensive Sencore and B-K testers are used by serious audiophiles to nail down even tiny issues and are much more accurate on emission readings, as they actually bias the tubes' grid and vary the plate resistance for a "dynamic" test. They will even fire up an eye/bar indicator like a 6FG6-6E5-6AL7, which an emission tester will NOT do.

My Weston is go-to for old stuff, also my Supreme model 89 for pre-1940s tubes, but EICO 635 I built 45 years ago for the remainder, including compactrons.
A 625 is more comprehensive on old tubes as my 635 has no 4-5-6 pin socket for pre-40s tubes.
https://www.amateurradio.com/eico-model ... be-tester/ http://capeoldradio.com/cor_eico635.php

This EICO is cheap and it works to find BAD tubes and moderately weak ones, rarely is a tube not listed in its book. Forget the charts and adapters, just get a few testers spanning 1930s to 1970s and you can test anything. :mrgreen:
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What has been your experience testing Compactrons? I seem to have trouble getting an accurate test on them.
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I have a Jackson 648, I picked up at a local antique fair... just the chassis , no case no nothing... paid 15 bucks for it , built a cabinet and replaced the power cord... been using it for the last 25 years...
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I had a few fancy Hickoks, TV7D, 800, but sold them off when I got a free light, compact and newer SS B&K 607 from my late uncle. It does all I need it to do, it accurately sorts good from bad well enough, as Dave says, and I was happy to let the guitar-obsessed nuts pay stupid prices for the Hickok stuff. It tests Compactrons and all the newer tubes for my '60s color TVs and '50s & 60s audio stuff but not the old 4 and 5 pin tubes, which is OK for my needs.
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Post: # 4087Post Motorola minion »

electra225 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:30 pm What has been your experience testing Compactrons? I seem to have trouble getting an accurate test on them.
The type of 12-pin compactron GE and Zenith mostly used in portable TVs, with Sylvania a distant 3rd. I usually have to triage a bunch of these tubes as I have so many from all my TV-test equipment hauls.

That means if I sorted out all the 6B10's, 6JS6's, 6AC10 etc, then tested them on my emission tester, then most would pass. BUT if I have a TV I just restored that uses one or two types of the plentiful 12-pin types, I will rotate them in and see which ones introduce symptoms, then cull them for some future target practice.
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hermitcrab wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:44 pm I have a Jackson 648, I picked up at a local antique fair... just the chassis , no case no nothing... paid 15 bucks for it , built a cabinet and replaced the power cord... been using it for the last 25 years...
I had to make a new case for that 1930s Supreme too. I forgot to mention Jackson, another TV shop staple. That tells you what you need to know :geek:
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I nabbed a B&K 667 for twenty bucks at a garage sale a few years ago. Works great and does all I need it to do.
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back-2-mono wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:28 pm I nabbed a B&K 667 for twenty bucks at a garage sale a few years ago. Works great and does all I need it to do.
Great tester. You will have fun seeing how truly bad tubes actually test. There are subtle clues that meter will give.
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