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Last fall, I started feeling like I was out on a limb, with the saw between me and the tree... ;)

This sad fact gave me the inspiration to update the forum. Kudos go to Rex and Bill for their guidance and encouragement, their myriad of good ideas. Our goals were many, our accomplishments few as far as appearance and features were concerned, so here we are as far as the updates are concerned.

First is security. After our spambot invasion of a couple years ago, we now have CAPTCHA, a security question at registration, the "three post rule" for new members and, now, our SSL certificate. Add to that the two-step authorization, optional, but recommended.

Next is features. We now have "Downloads" with "Literature" and "Gallery" in the works. There is "Console Tales" and "Consolettes" as new boards. We may divide "Record Players" and "Changers" further after I review the Moderators' recommendations. We have "Donations" for members who would like to contribute to the expenses of hosting and other expenses pertaining to the forum. We have a "Second" in the event something should happen to me, and, now the "Second" has a "Second". Mark is essentially the Global Administrator, and will provide backup and support to the "second" should he require such support. We don't want to end up like Vintage with no backup or support in the event of an unforeseen event that would shut down the forum. "Forum Rules" will soon be in the navbar, along with being posted at registration. "Forum Rules" will abandon its current position on the index page. "Announcements" will be moved to "Chat" as soon as everybody has a chance to read it. I have moved "Suppliers" up farther on the index page, and have moved "Our Other Toys" down to near the bottom of the index page. The forum features console stereos, so we want to feature those more prominently, along with support and suppliers. I didn't get to use the style I selected for the default style, for very solid reasons, by the way, something I hadn't considered, so now I don't have enough color to suit me on the home page. Avatars help, but I'd like to use some red forum headers to divide the index page if I can get Mark on that task. I fear we went from "blue and blah" to "Gray and blah". I want something eye-catching, but not hard on older eyes. We have added some administrative features, "Board Messages" and things like that to make the moderator's job easier. We have updated the forum software to the latest version and Mark has added some quality of life features to make the forum more legal (California) and more mobile-friendly. So, TECHNICALLY speaking, we are as good as we can get, right up there with the "big" forum with a later version of the forum software than they have. We are still working on the features, getting permissions and that sorted and me figuring out how everything works. I believe we have addressed all the suggestions offered by members except changing the name of the forum. That is not a consideration. I will post an image in the header on the index page as soon as we get the navbar more established and get all the writing out of the header. I want to spit the header between the name and shortened logo and an image. I haven't decided on a final version yet. We have added "Right Random Image" that will let us post a series of six images that will change periodically. We can alternate between this feature and a more permanent image if we want to "change it up" a bit. I hope we have built enough flexibility into our "infrastructure" so we can more quickly accomodate the suggestions offered by our members. We want also to attract more traffic to the forum and acquire some new members. If we had 100 members with 20 active, we'd have a better participation average than the "big" forum with 16,000 members. I have already discovered features I'd like to add, so perhaps in 90 days or so, after we get all the new stuff sorted, we'll ask Mark to incorporate some of those features as well. The new "navbar" features will be readable by everybody, but only members can download, or upload to those features. As Art used to say, "This ain't Mooch Motors". I don't see the need for us to contribute and maintain archival material only to share it with those who won't make a contribution of their time to the forum. New members won't be able to access these features until they have three posts, have introduced themselves on "Introductions" and have posted an avatar. We want to know who is on our forum, how we can help them, what they can contribute to the forum.

I want to give a public thank you to Mark for all he has done for the forum. I must have called 50 website designers in the Valley. When I mentioned working with open-source software, many of them would hang up on me. Ditto the forum host. Finally, I contacted a firm who knew a guy, who knew a guy, who was Mark. He had commitments that prevented his starting immediately, but when we got started, he has been kind, helpful, and above all, patient, answering my questions and tolerating my incompetence working with computers. Mark knows "his stuff" and has saved the forum from a fate of mediocrity.

Next are our crackerjack Moderators. Rex and Bill (or Bill and Rex) have been a godsend to me and to the forum. Asking them to serve as Moderators is the ONE thing I've done right. Rex is an experienced moderator, and taught me anything I know about it. Bill is a rookie at moderating and has got his "baptism in fire". Both are level-headed and moderate with kid gloves in contrast to my more heavy-handed tendencies. Rex is a master at starting interesting topics. Also a master at searches and research. He can come up with stuff I didn't know exists. Bill is the master at encouraging people to communicate with each other. He never met a stranger. They both know what is right and follow their instincts. These guys have the ability to keep me on the straight and narrow and return me when I get derailed. Rex has the plan, Bill provides motivation. These valued friends don't get the recognition they so richly deserve.

I can provide a platform for a forum, the infrastructure if you will. You members ARE the forum. Without you and your participation, there is no forum. You guys, and you alone, decide whether the forum grows or if it folds. The only mandatory cost is your time and talents. Posting your projects, sharing your pictures, stories are what will make the forum successful. Telling your friends of like interest and promoting the forum wherever you can will help us grow. There is expense to operating and hosting the forum. The moderators and my wife have suggested that my insistance of paying the costs myself might be short-sighted. Members who wish to contribute may feel more "at home" feeling they have some "skin in the game" if you will. So we have provided this feature, or will as soon as I get it set up. When you see the "Donations" font in the navbar, that will be an indication it's up and ready. Contributions are totally optional, at your discretion. They will be appreciated and may allow us to incorporate features that I'm too tight to do otherwise..... ;)

I thank you all for your participation and support to the forum. We celebrate our second anniversary on July 9. We have 15,277 posts from 48 members as of this writing. We have about ten active members, so that is pretty good "shooting" from only 48 members. I hope we can grow and attract some new blood, and encourage members we don't hear from as often as we'd like to participate more, so we can continue until we are all old(er) and gray(er). My best to you all and thanks........Greg
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Post: # 15453Post Hi-Fi-Mogul »

Greg, Rex, and Bill,

Thank you for the continued attention to making this a
great forum.

Mark's selection seems a great fit, especially from reading
his notes to us.

I too, would like a color scheme that gives better reading
contrast.
The gray and soft white combo seem harder to read (for me).

I assume the "Downloads" section is where to post pdf files ?

Greg, I LOVE the "Console Tales" section. Avast, ye wayward tangents !

Finally, I like the sub-title of "Your console stereo resource".

That's my idea of a good forum. A useful resource.
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Mr. Mogul, thank you for your input and for the kind words! I wanted the burgundy Linux style for the default style. Mark warned that it might not be appropriate for those with color-blindness or some forms of eye disease/defects and recommended we make the gray and white style the default style. In ten days or so, all members will have a choice of three styles, chosen at their discretion, from their User Control Panel, found by clicking on their username in the upper righthand corner of the index page. "Downloads", "Literature" will both be able to have PDF files posted. "Gallery" probably as well, but this will be for pictures. The plan is to set up a "Member's Gallery" and a single-picture gallery. Downloads will be for schematics and service information ONLY, "Literature" will be for most any kind of printed material pertinent to console stereos and home entertainment equipment, that is not service information. These features on Vintage were a mess and were frequently visited by spambots with their porn and nonsense. I'm trying to come up with a format that is easily searched and makes sense. This is not as easy as I thought it would be. The forum logo was too long and wordy. It was okay as a start, but wasn't going to work with header graphics and that. I believe my first header graphic will be my old Imperial stereo. I may ask for volunteers to moderate Downloads to keep it neat, pertinent, appropriate and free from nonsense. A Local Moderator only, just responsible for moderating Downloads. Bill will ramrod Literature and I haven't decided about Gallery yet. I may do that one myself. Rex hasn't mentioned a preference, but I'm sure he'll jump in someplace. I want all the items in Downloads, Literature and Gallery listed in alphabetical order in the index. And these "navbar features" will be available to members only. To prevent having 1800 members on the forum, 1750 of which are "information mooches" we are limiting access to members only. Not new members, full members with three moderator-approved posts, having introduced themselves in Introductions and having posted an avatar by their fifth post. This will let up know who is on the forum, what their interests are and will help prevent silliness and nonsense by spambots. This rule will cause whining, but every other quality forum I have visited has a similar rule.
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The changes are all appropriate and incremental, which is praise indeed. I get a bit grumpy about internet sites and such that seem committed to change for change's sake, not for real positive effect. I suspect that there's a premium on novelty in the computer world, and somebody gets a good note in the personnel file when they make a big revision. This site's changes seem well reasoned.

As to the visuals, I like the gray/white but don't much care what colors are used if there are sound reasons for changing.

And about contributions.... I have no idea what kinds of costs are involved. Can you give us some figures, or suggested donations? Those of us who get the benefits ought to share at least some of the burdens.

Good work by all involved, including the anonymous Mark.

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If ever there was an internet site that needed updated, it was this one. We weren't in technical danger, but I thought it was ugly, and can't imagine that others felt the same. I don't like change. Now I have to use my cellphone to get a code if I need to log in. Security. I say bahhh humbug, but time marches on. Now I get to have a closer relationship with an appliance. And I have a "rescue" code if something happens to my phone, so I can get back onto the forum as me. I have a regular membership on the forum in the case I can't get onto the forum. At least I can contact the moderators and ask for help. This security and hacking nonsense is a bigger deal than little old innocent me realized.

As to donations, do what your conscience dictates. I didn't put suggested contributions on the forum because I don't want to make people think they are obligated. The cost of maintaining and hosting the forum is not great enough that I won't eat because of it. Let's do this like you would any other free-will offering. Contribute according to your blessings. If the sermon and singing were inspirational, put more in the collection plate. Cost for hosting is going up next year. Domain registration and WHOIS fees went up this year. Mark is reasonable, but not free. And he's not done yet. If you want more accurate information, let's communicate via PM.

Gray and white is the most popular using this forum software. You can select from three styles as I mentioned earlier.
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Greg and crew, You have done a terrific job! Super nice . I can't wait to see peoples consoles I know there are some significant jems out there that people are too humble (not me) to show off. Was looking for donations tab. fumble fingers I guess because I dont see it. Hydro
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"Donation" is in the left hand lower corner of the header. I hit it about half the time when I intend to hit "board index"...... :oops:

Thanks for your input, Hydro and for your kind words. We still have some things to finish and I'm sure I have a couple settings wrong. We'll get there, and we thank you all for your patience.
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Post: # 15840Post SeniorSteve »

Hi everyone, I was logged in and was going to hit the "Donation" button, but I can't find it.
I don't think it is my browser that is preventing me from seeing the button.
When I go to the "Board index", all I see is the time just below it.

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Steve, right below the PhPBB logo, there are some fonts in the navbar. "Quick Links", "Donations", "FAQ", "Downloads". If you are on a mobile device, depending on the browser, you may find Donations under Quick Links. Click on Quick Links then scroll down to Donations. Let me know if you have other questions or if I can help.
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Does not show up on my computer, either on its own or by clicking "quicklinks."

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Post: # 15849Post Hi-Fi-Mogul »

Interesting thing:

When I am NOT logged in, the Donations link is there and
functions to go to the PayPal button.

PayPal button is active and functional.

BUT, when I AM logged in, the Donations link is not there.
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Look in Quick Links.
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Post: # 15853Post SeniorSteve »

Hi-Fi-Mogul, you nailed it! I logged out and was presented with the "Donation" button. It was easy after that.
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I have donations when I'm logged in and logged out. :roll:

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Post: # 15862Post SeniorSteve »

As a "end user" the "Donations" button will not show up when I am logged in. I followed Hi-Fi-Mogul's advice and logged out. I was able to make a donation this afternoon. but evidently it might not have been associated with me as I was logged out. In any case I was happy to make the donation as I do support both ARF and Audiokarma as well. It's a small price for great service.
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What kind of a device are you on,Steve?

Again, let me say this. This style includes "notifications" and "private messages" in the area that is normally part of the navbar. This, in addition to the extensions we now have, leave insufficient room in the shortened navbar for everything. The "extras", the items there is no room for in the navbar are now listed in Quick Links. If you can't find what you are looking for, remember to check Quick Links.

Donations works exactly the same whether you are logged in or not.
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I have 2 computers, both are Windows 10 computers with all of the updates. I'm using Firefox (latest version) 115.0, and also tried Chrome (latest version 114.0.5735.199) I don't have a lot of other applications on either of them. Hope this helps. Both computers are about 10-12 years old and have I7 processors, one is a desktop, one is a laptop. One I built it myself and the other was a Samsung gaming laptop that I bricked for a relative. It sat in my basement for a couple of years until I found a motherboard for $75.00. I repaired it, but my relative didn't want it by that time. I built another computer for them instead.

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On a desktop, you should see "Quick LInks", "Donations", "FAQ", "Downloads", and "Rules" under the header image with the forum name and logo. I don't know about Firefox, but I think one of the moderators uses Firefox, and his is displaying Donations like it should. Check Quick Links to see if you can find it there.
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I'm on Firefox. Does not show up under Quicklinks or otherwise.

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