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I made a comment about the differences in cartridge tracking comparing turntables to changers. I may have unintentionally made that comment tongue-in-cheek. This is a subject I have been researching. I have a collection of Consumer Reports magazines, but they are concerned with inter-groove harmonic distortion and things like that, rather then accurate tracking.

My question was and remains: Why does the cartridge in a turntable need to be set up with such precise adjustments when the cartridge in a changer does not?

They want the magnetic cartridges in turntables to run perfectly flat, perfectly vertical, swing in a perfect arc as it runs toward the center of the record. The typically ceramic cartridges in changers run at a different angle as it plays a stack of six or eight records. There are typically no provisions for anti-skate in a changer. One can set the tracking force, but these adjustments are many times compromises rather than exact settings. Five grams of weight is a lot for a magnetic cartridge, yet is considered light for a ceramic used in a changer. You should use the cuing lever when setting a magnetic cartridge on a record, to prevent disturbing delicate settings or damaging an expensive "stylus", yet a VM changer drops the tone arm from a couple inches high without damaging the record or needle.

I think it's fair to say that most audiophiles poo-poo changers as totally unacceptable devices for audio reproduction, period. It is probably also fair to say that changers were designed to be consumer-grade equipment. Anyone who can afford one could also run one with little instruction. Turntables like the audiophiles recommend can be complex and cantankerous to live with. They need constant and dedicated tinkering to keep in proper operation. To my old ears, I can't imagine a magnetic cartridge that sounds better than an Electro-Voice 26 or a General Electric C-100 ceramic cartridge. These typically found mounted in a record changer. I like the Shure N92 and the Stanton 500 magnetics, but do they actually "sound better"? How can changers play records well and sound good when they are "breaking all the rules"? Comments? ;) :D
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I can remember going into a stereo shop in E. Lansing 40 years ago and hearing an LP playing that sounded just like I was at a live performance. There was no equipment between me and the music. I bought the LP and no, it did not sound as miraculously transparent at home, even though my equipment was pretty good. That experience convinced me that there was something to the high-end phenomenon.

It's wonderful to experience that kind of quality, but in real life, I'm the guy who drive a 20 year old Ranger truck.

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Post: # 26542Post electra225 »

I don't understand why this topic is so captivating to me. I reckon it was like wanting to rebuild an RCA 45 player. I wanted one of those for ages. I had heard how hard they could be to repair and get set right. I found the repair straightforward, aided by the sage advice of the late Chris Cuff. I will admit I did a lot of research and study before I attempted any repair. Same with cartridges. I'm not going to be satisfied until I give it a shot, win, lose or draw. If I can fix an 8MM movie camera, certainly I can set a cartridge correctly.
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I've got a big collection of 8 mm movie cameras. They were cheap online and I was fascinated by all the different approaches to the same basic function. Finally I had one of just about everything and halted buying. Except when I see an orphan at a house sale.

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I am looking for a Bell and Howell Super 8 projector. I can't recall the exact model, but it is the newer sibling of the old 8MM projector I rebuilt.
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