Cheap Germanium transistor amplifiers and FREE service literature for fun and learning . . .

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Cheap Germanium transistor amplifiers and FREE service literature for fun and learning . . .

Post: # 24653Post wparks »

I don't see a lot of posts on Germanium transistor amplifiers, and wanted to throw a shout out to a really cheap, fun, area ready for learning and experimentation-

I have been tinkering lately with the 12V germanium amplifiers found in extremely affordable 8-track automotive decks from the late 60's and early 70's that can be found at yard sales or on Ebay for under $30 including shipping. While 8-track tape is generally a dismal source, don't let that turn you off- the amplifiers present a great opportunity to study and experiment with vintage designs that use these early transistors. Easily restored and modified, the result can sound unique, amazing, different, and surprisingly good quality. These really are hidden gems- because for a pittance they include all of the impossible to find parts (the interstage transformers, thermistors, and matching sets of germanium pre and power transistors) all in one functional package, usually working fine even if the tape deck is dead.

These amplifiers are typically designed and built in Japan, so are often high quality in a compact package- Usually stripped down to the most basic elements to save cost and area, but using high quality components. They are, however, pretty low power- With only 12-14V car battery voltage to work with, a class AB can only generate about 4-5 Watts per channel even into 4 Ohm speakers. This is not enough for full-room listening, but it is perfect for near-field listening on a desk top or bookshelf, headphone amplifier, or a little test amp.

I reworked one of these as a learning exercise into a small stand-alone amplifier that I detailed in my "Germanium Bake King" project:
https://classichificare.com/viewtopic.php?t=2984

Kraco 8-track Reborn as Germanium Bake King
Kraco 8-track Reborn as Germanium Bake King


You can find FREE service literature for many such auto radio designs at the World Radio History website. Just search for "SAMS" at the main site, (or see the SAMS listings link below ) and you will find a great many volumes of the SAM's "Auto Radio Series" included there among the SAMS bookshelf. The Auto Radio Series was a long series of periodic books, each volume of which included service literature for a dozen or so various recent models. These books alone are a treasure trove of free service literature and design examples worthy of study.

World Radio History: https://www.worldradiohistory.com/index.htm
SAMS Listings: https://www.worldradiohistory.com/BOOKS ... f_Sams.htm

You can look up your desired make and model using the free SAMS Annual Index Volume 1:

https://www.samswebsite.com/downloads/A ... 1_2002.pdf

which covers all SAMS models from 1946 through 2001. If the SAMS number starts with "AR-", it is in one of these Auto Radio Series books and =MAY= be there for free at the World Radio History library.

Here is the eBay search string I usually use to find good cheap automotive 8-track players:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=8+ ... =1&_sop=15

ranked lowest cost first. For a germanium amplifier you will want to look for a deck that is 8-track only, usually an earlier looking design, the more chrome the better. 😀 It should be from the late 60's or early 70's, with a boxy rectangular "under the dash" design (Not the two-shaft through the dash design). You should see only volume, tone, and balance, with no radio dial. Once you get into the late 70's with AM or AM/FM designs they have moved on to silicon transistors or integrated circuits- also fun, but not my focus here. If you want to be really sure, find the ones where you can see the power transistors mounted on the outside of the rear panel like this Kraco:

Rear of original Kraco KS-408A 8-track (w/Transistors)
Rear of original Kraco KS-408A 8-track (w/Transistors)

You might even be able to see a transistor number and look it up. Even if you can't see the transistors on the outside, if it's 8-track only, you stand a good chance, and it is worth finding one with the transistors inside, as they will likely be fresh and clean looking like new, unlike the external ones that are often corroded.

Anyway, happy hunting, and please share you results or thoughts. -Warren
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Post: # 24654Post William »

Thanks for sharing, Warren. So, what transistor is missing in you Kraco photo/

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It does look like that doesn't it! That was where the Power/Speaker connector plug was. Only four output transistors, rest were mounted on the PCB.
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Post: # 24657Post William »

I sure does look like a transistor hole. I thought maybe it was some kind of a transistor rectifier or something. I have yet to tackle transistor stuff, have enough trouble with tube amps and especially radios. I do enjoy reading your posts and trying to figure out what you are doing. Maybe someday down the road I will get there. Thanks for sharing.

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Post: # 24673Post Hi-Fi-Mogul »

I too, would like to learn more about transistor
amp repair (on very small amps !)

Thanks for keeping us in the learning mode.

And thanks for the resources links.
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Post: # 24674Post electra225 »

Put me on the list of people who want to learn about working with solid state equipment. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. I look forward to more of your informative topics..... :D
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Post: # 24675Post wparks »

Thank you, all, I really appreciate it.

I have another in-depth article I am working up on the Magnavox A531 germanium AB power amp chassis I bought on ebay. It will include cosmetic and electrical restoration, circuit walk-through, germanium output transistor matching, and tuning/measurement results. Since I don't see a lot of technical posts about germanium amplifier designs, how they work, and how to work on them, I thought it would be good to contribute what I have learned so that others can follow in my path if they want to explore this very interesting area. I have learned a lot about germanium, and about amplifiers in general, and while I am not an expert, I think I can lay bread crumbs that other hobbyists can follow on what has been a most enjoyable journey. I love how germanium sounds, as much as how tubes sound, and if others can use this information to either restore their historic consoles, or save and resurrect these otherwise landfill-bound amplifiers I know they will enjoy it too.
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